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Jan

Pre-filed Bill S. 0084 ultrasound requirement

Before an abortionist can perform the procedure on a patient, they must verify the baby’s gestational age with an ultrasound, they must review the ultrasound pictures with the mother, and the mother must sign an informed consent that she has reviewed the ultrasound pictures. This language simply builds upon current abortion language in the code. This bill has support among those called “pro-life” and “pro-choice”. I am told by those in crisis pregnancy centers that when an ultrasound is viewed, most patients (an estimated 85%) choose life.http://www.scstatehouse.net/sess117_2007-2008/bills/84.htm

14 Responses to “Pre-filed Bill S. 0084 ultrasound requirement”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Hi!

    It may be easier to reply to this if you comment on these 4 statements and questions.

    1.Before I forgot, I hope your district has a health center providing birth control that is publicized for people who did not have parents as helpful as mine were. I do not know if you support free birth control and condoms?

    2. My parents didn’t teach strict abstinence, they told me to come to them before I decided to have sex so we could discuss how mentally mature I was and get birth control if I needed it. Even though I was of age, my mom even came to the doctor with me and made sure I understood how to use it. Most importantly, they taught me responsibility and helped me have a strong self esteem that aided me to resist peer pressure and smooth talkers (lol) in high school. Do you think my parent’s approach is helpful in preventing abortion even if they didn’t teach strict abstinence?

    3. Besides being a feminist who has closely studied the history of women (look at the country Hungary in the 60’s-80’s abortion policy) and has concluded it is necessary for the advancement and safety of women for women to be given legal and safe abortions, I have a personal concern about the amendment. I have 2 chronic illnesses and take several medications for the condition. I would rather not name them as they reveal a condition that is private. I have been told by doctors that if I want to have a baby, I must stop my medicine and it must be carefully planned. If an accidental pregnancy happened, my medicine most likely would harm the fetus and it is pretty much a fact that I would have to abort the fetus if that were the case because it may be born deformed. Not only that, if I chose to keep it and I suddenly went off my meds because I wanted to have a baby, it could lead to serious damage and maybe even death for me. So having the baby and giving it up for adoption would be dangerous to my health. I’m a very careful, responsible person who takes my birth control and does anything which will stop me from getting pregnant. I consult my pharmacy all the time. But not all pharmacies are as good as mine. (And not all parents teach their kids about birth control as well as mine did.) For example, my sister asked her pharmacy, as my mom had taught us, if the antibiotic she was taking would interfere with her birth control and they said no. It did and due to the bond she felt with the fetus, being in a decent living situation, and having a supportive boyfriend (now husband) and family that would help her financially, she had the baby. (I do love her baby.) You can understand that I wouldn’t want to have an abortion because of its emotional and traumatic impact. Though, I am not convinced it is a child yet, I know that the fetus does have feelings and I would not want to hurt anything unless it was necessary. But if for some mistake, I were to get pregnant, to have twice the trauma would hurt me too. To have to view the fetus?

    4. I can tell you and your wife have compassion or you would not care so much about what you consider to be a baby. Please carefully consider every possible scenario before committing yourself to such extreme anti abortion opinions. There are cases that not only have emotional impact (like rape victims) but may be medically necessary to abort (such as might be mine or incest victims).

  2. Anonymous Says:

    Hi!

    It may be easier to reply to this if you comment on these 4 statements and questions.

    1.Before I forgot, I hope your district has a health center providing birth control that is publicized for people who did not have parents as helpful as mine were. I do not know if you support free birth control and condoms?

    2. My parents didn’t teach strict abstinence, they told me to come to them before I decided to have sex so we could discuss how mentally mature I was and get birth control if I needed it. Even though I was of age, my mom even came to the doctor with me and made sure I understood how to use it. Most importantly, they taught me responsibility and helped me have a strong self esteem that aided me to resist peer pressure and smooth talkers (lol) in high school. Do you think my parent’s approach is helpful in preventing abortion even if they didn’t teach strict abstinence?

    3. Besides being a feminist who has closely studied the history of women (look at the country Hungary in the 60’s-80’s abortion policy) and has concluded it is necessary for the advancement and safety of women for women to be given legal and safe abortions, I have a personal concern about the amendment. I have 2 chronic illnesses and take several medications for the condition. I would rather not name them as they reveal a condition that is private. I have been told by doctors that if I want to have a baby, I must stop my medicine and it must be carefully planned. If an accidental pregnancy happened, my medicine most likely would harm the fetus and it is pretty much a fact that I would have to abort the fetus if that were the case because it may be born deformed. Not only that, if I chose to keep it and I suddenly went off my meds because I wanted to have a baby, it could lead to serious damage and maybe even death for me. So having the baby and giving it up for adoption would be dangerous to my health. I’m a very careful, responsible person who takes my birth control and does anything which will stop me from getting pregnant. I consult my pharmacy all the time. But not all pharmacies are as good as mine. (And not all parents teach their kids about birth control as well as mine did.) For example, my sister asked her pharmacy, as my mom had taught us, if the antibiotic she was taking would interfere with her birth control and they said no. It did and due to the bond she felt with the fetus, being in a decent living situation, and having a supportive boyfriend (now husband) and family that would help her financially, she had the baby. (I do love her baby.) You can understand that I wouldn’t want to have an abortion because of its emotional and traumatic impact. Though, I am not convinced it is a child yet, I know that the fetus does have feelings and I would not want to hurt anything unless it was necessary. But if for some mistake, I were to get pregnant, to have twice the trauma would hurt me too. To have to view the fetus?

    4. I can tell you and your wife have compassion or you would not care so much about what you consider to be a baby. Please carefully consider every possible scenario before committing yourself to such extreme anti abortion opinions. There are cases that not only have emotional impact (like rape victims) but may be medically necessary to abort (such as might be mine or incest victims).

  3. Anonymous Says:

    Kevin,
    I seems to me that some that call themselves “pro-choice” are genuine. They want to see an informed choice. Anyone opposing this reasonable requirement is not “pro-choice” but “pro-abortion” or even “pro-death”

  4. Anonymous Says:

    Kevin,
    I seems to me that some that call themselves “pro-choice” are genuine. They want to see an informed choice. Anyone opposing this reasonable requirement is not “pro-choice” but “pro-abortion” or even “pro-death”

  5. Palmetto Conservative Says:

    In regards to the comments of anonymous #1, I personally know from the people involved in the Crisis Pregnnancy Centers that they would never ask a woman to endanger or give her life to carry a child to term. In fact they clearly and concisely state the opposite. Therefore, the fear that a woman in an unfortuante circumstance might face such a choice remains unfounded if those members of our community that truly care about life come into contact with her.

    She makes a solid point about parental guidance and education, however it seems to me that Senator Bryant’s bill addresses that very shortfall that, tragically, often faces women in dire situations. The precise mission of caregivers who afford pregnant women the opportunity to view, literally, their options, is not to frighten them out of a choice but to encourage them into a choice.

    The hope that a woman receives from the empowerment of knowing her body and what it is capable of effects, as Senator Bryant’s statistics prove, the change of mind and heart that embraces life and eschews the alternative. This season, most of all, compels us to support the choices that informed women make to love and support the gift God has given them. Anything that promotes the understanding of that gift, is a blessing to us all.

  6. Palmetto Conservative Says:

    In regards to the comments of anonymous #1, I personally know from the people involved in the Crisis Pregnnancy Centers that they would never ask a woman to endanger or give her life to carry a child to term. In fact they clearly and concisely state the opposite. Therefore, the fear that a woman in an unfortuante circumstance might face such a choice remains unfounded if those members of our community that truly care about life come into contact with her.

    She makes a solid point about parental guidance and education, however it seems to me that Senator Bryant’s bill addresses that very shortfall that, tragically, often faces women in dire situations. The precise mission of caregivers who afford pregnant women the opportunity to view, literally, their options, is not to frighten them out of a choice but to encourage them into a choice.

    The hope that a woman receives from the empowerment of knowing her body and what it is capable of effects, as Senator Bryant’s statistics prove, the change of mind and heart that embraces life and eschews the alternative. This season, most of all, compels us to support the choices that informed women make to love and support the gift God has given them. Anything that promotes the understanding of that gift, is a blessing to us all.

  7. Anonymous Says:

    With regards to anon#1 if you make the CHOICE to engage in activity that leads to gravidity, with full knowlege of your own health issues, YOU also had the freedom to NOT engage in unprotected sex. Are we expected to condome irresponsibility? If so let’s let the guys at Enron get out of jail free…

  8. Anonymous Says:

    With regards to anon#1 if you make the CHOICE to engage in activity that leads to gravidity, with full knowlege of your own health issues, YOU also had the freedom to NOT engage in unprotected sex. Are we expected to condome irresponsibility? If so let’s let the guys at Enron get out of jail free…

  9. encouraging healthy views Says:

    A comprehensive sexual health program would reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies, and as a byproduct, abortions. Abstinence only education is unrealistic. We would all like to believe our children are not going to have sex, but that is also unrealistic. If we want our children to make good and educated decisions, we must arm them with the knowledge to do so. Teach them that if they are going to have sex they can get pregnant and how to reduce the likeliness. Tell them that the only way they can reduce the risks of STDs is through latex and polyurethane condoms. Then tell them if they are not prepared to deal with the risk at all, they can avoid it by abstaining from sexual activity. Avoid applying shame to asking questions. They will feel more empowered to say no or ask for protection when they don’t.

  10. encouraging healthy views Says:

    A comprehensive sexual health program would reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies, and as a byproduct, abortions. Abstinence only education is unrealistic. We would all like to believe our children are not going to have sex, but that is also unrealistic. If we want our children to make good and educated decisions, we must arm them with the knowledge to do so. Teach them that if they are going to have sex they can get pregnant and how to reduce the likeliness. Tell them that the only way they can reduce the risks of STDs is through latex and polyurethane condoms. Then tell them if they are not prepared to deal with the risk at all, they can avoid it by abstaining from sexual activity. Avoid applying shame to asking questions. They will feel more empowered to say no or ask for protection when they don’t.

  11. west_rhino Says:

    Absitnence education in a secularist hedonistic society probably is unrealistic. For one nation under God, a “faith-based” program that existed before the catch phrase was invented allows it to be realistic for everyone but the agnostic and apostate. Islam, Judaism and Christianity all oppose adultery and fornication.

    “healthy views”, to excuse irresponsibllity as you are condoning, is hardly a “healthy view”. Otherwise to make your option work, we’ll have to have bedroom police, with a primary enforcement ability for “riding bareback” for anyone engaged in carnal activity other than a man and his wife.

  12. west_rhino Says:

    Absitnence education in a secularist hedonistic society probably is unrealistic. For one nation under God, a “faith-based” program that existed before the catch phrase was invented allows it to be realistic for everyone but the agnostic and apostate. Islam, Judaism and Christianity all oppose adultery and fornication.

    “healthy views”, to excuse irresponsibllity as you are condoning, is hardly a “healthy view”. Otherwise to make your option work, we’ll have to have bedroom police, with a primary enforcement ability for “riding bareback” for anyone engaged in carnal activity other than a man and his wife.

  13. encouraging healthy views Says:

    An education program that gives individuals the facts about sex, pregnancy, and STDs removes the need for “bedroom police”. Knowing about the deed does not make you do it. Knowing the actual statistics may help a person make better decisions about their health and future. The statistics show that those who are educated have lower rates of STDs, unwanted pregnancies, and abortions.
    In the long term, religious freedom cannot exist in a theocracy. “one nation under God” was added in 1952, and was not origional to the pledge. I am quite fond of the principals my nation was founded on. I do feel that many people are distorting and manipulating its meanings for their own gain. New and varied ideals that are well thought out are a wonderful thing. I welcome them, especially if they are different. I do dislike attacks on opposing views.
    Thank you

  14. encouraging healthy views Says:

    An education program that gives individuals the facts about sex, pregnancy, and STDs removes the need for “bedroom police”. Knowing about the deed does not make you do it. Knowing the actual statistics may help a person make better decisions about their health and future. The statistics show that those who are educated have lower rates of STDs, unwanted pregnancies, and abortions.
    In the long term, religious freedom cannot exist in a theocracy. “one nation under God” was added in 1952, and was not origional to the pledge. I am quite fond of the principals my nation was founded on. I do feel that many people are distorting and manipulating its meanings for their own gain. New and varied ideals that are well thought out are a wonderful thing. I welcome them, especially if they are different. I do dislike attacks on opposing views.
    Thank you

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